Problems Arising With MarketHealth.com. What should I do?
By andrew on Feb 29, 2008 in bum marketing
Hi Friends,
Recently, I was experimenting with a product from MarketHealth.com, or formerly known as joebucks.com. While I was looking for advice on how to market physical products, I came across these 2 websites.
There have been complains of how MarketHealth.com is stealing affiliates profits so I wonder what do you think after reading this 2 blogs that I found.
http://www.niggybuzz.com/joe-bucks-affiliate-program/
http://www.ezmoneyon.net/how-to-stay-away-from-internet-marketing-scams/
Comments anyone? Should MarketHealth be trusted? Or should I stop promoting their product and change another?
Regards,
Andrew
Technorati Tags: problems with markethealth, joebucks
hannie | Mar 3, 2008 | Reply
Hey andrew , i was surprised that Joebucks is scams ! I hate this , man. anyway i am going to drop joebuck soon. no wonder my sales is suck there. i am moving to genbucks and moreniche
hehhe
let me know if you have not join
andrew | Mar 3, 2008 | Reply
Yup. I am about to drop joebucks soon too. I just started my PPC campaign on joebucks and it turn out to be a scam. Lucky I did not my click through cost was just a few dollars.
Is genbucks and moreniche conversion good?
andrew | Mar 4, 2008 | Reply
Hi Hannie,
I have just stop my PPC campaign on joebucks product. Think it is time to source for another product to replace. By the way, do you have any experience with CPA networks?
Regards,
Andrew
Simonne | Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
I think that you should replace them with another program, at least for a while, then compare your results. And first of all, go check your affiliate site links, to see if they lead to your ID or to the fraudulent one.
As of replacement, Genbucks has pretty much the same kind of products, so you’ll be able to substitute the affiliate links easily. I haven’t worked with them, but I heard only good things.
andrew | Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
Hi Simonne,
Thanks for the advise. I will do some test over weekends to confirm. Other than Genbucks, are there other similar networks that you use?
Regards,
Andrew
Zoro | Mar 30, 2008 | Reply
That’s suck!
That’s why I never made any sale with Markethealth.
alyssa | Apr 16, 2008 | Reply
I only made about $400.00 with Markethealth in 4 months and I replaced my MarketHealth links with Genbucks and I earned $1,350.00 already in only 2 months. Gary at MarketHealth also talks to people like they’re dumb. He’s a jerk. It also takes them a long time to return any e-mails or calls. I hated that the most. I personally know 2 people that never got their checks in the mail and were given the run-a-round. My advice is to not join. I like Genbucks,Moreniche and Shareasale.
forumoo | May 2, 2008 | Reply
i have also the feeling long time ago that joebucke is a scam site ,since i have send them thousands of very targeted traffic without results
Kathy Wills | May 9, 2008 | Reply
I have reported this company to the Better Business Bureau. I will be reporting them to my Attorney Generals office tomorrow. JoeBucks nor herbalbiz.com provide any way to cancel your account. As others have said they treat you like you don’t know anything. Herbalbiz set up my domain so that I can’t even access it to transfer it to a new registrar to use if for something else.
andrew | May 10, 2008 | Reply
This is so weird. Seems like this post even got highlighted in this forum:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=831623
Anyway, was reading the forum, someone say they got their money promptly and on time.
The one person that gave his comment that caught my eye was 5starAffiliates. He believes and work with MarketHealth before.
Somehow, looking at the websites that he endorsed, i will tend to believe him. But for those who are on the verge of believing or not, why not try using some free traffic methods and see if you can get any sales or not.
It is difficult to know who is right and wrong on the Internet and the best way to do it is to test it yourself i guess.
Jason | May 13, 2008 | Reply
Well, I just got done doing a test and had 3 people order off of my site. NO CREDIT YET FOR THE SALES AND IT’S BEEN 15 DAYS SINCE MY DAD AND 2 FRIENDS ORDERED OFF MY SITE. They all got their products 5-6 days ago. I just posted this on a few boards. I’m also going to the FTC. I just have to have everyone send me their confirmation emails from their orders again and The FTC told me they’ll make an inquiry. I’ve been in affiliate marketing for 7 years and this is bull!!!!!!!!!! Thousands of hits and no sales!!!!!!!! I emailed Gary & John AT markethealh and O reponses. I have proof. EITHER THEY;RE RUNNING A SCAM OR THEY HAVE BAD TRACKING SOFTWARE THAT NEVER WORKS 100% OF THE TIME. I’m sure they’ll use a real good excuse once the FTC now contacts them.
andrew | May 15, 2008 | Reply
Hi Jason, any news on your complaints to FTC? Wonder what is the verdict on this issue?
Jason | May 17, 2008 | Reply
Hi Andrew. Well… I was told by the FTC that because the industry is so hard to regulate because it’s so technical and new compared to all the MLM scams they dealt with in the past, any complaints will be looked into and I was told that a lot of inquiries on Markethealth.com were coming in recently. With that I was told thats not good news when all of a sudden alot of people start making inquiries so fast. MarketHealth never got back to me about my sales. I have never got credit for them yet. My tracking I use and the tracking they report to me are way off!!! I even get hits from places I never advertise in.I’ve come across so many people that have claimed they never got their checks in the mail!!! Gary would lie and claim to have sent their checks but a guy that worked there told them that was because they hated mailing checks. So they’d pretty much tell people they mailed the checks and the people never got them. Then it would force people to use paypal to get paid. They pull alot of shit there. My friend also has had the same problem with credit for sales. He ordered under his own business name and business credit card ,ordered 6 bottles of hoodia chaser but only got credit for 1 bottle! Thats how they suck! They don’t report sales instantly,They manipulate the software.so here he is with 6 bottles of Hoodia Chaser and got commission for 1 bottle. My advice is for people to stay away from Markethealth.com . They even shut the forum down they used to own because of all the complaints they had. I used to belong to it. One day their were about 40 complaints and no responses. Gary left a response of ” TAKE YOUR BUSINESS ELSEWHERE TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAINED” and 2 hrs later, THE FORUM WAS GONE!!! HA HA. He’s an asshole.
Herman | Jun 8, 2008 | Reply
I’m sorry to hear about markethealth not paying people for all of their sales i sell products through them online and i always get my checks in the mail and sometime i get checks from sales that i never seen in my stats so i am very satisfied with them but hey thats me and i can onl speak for me.
Shannon Macri | Jun 20, 2008 | Reply
Hi Everyone.Well…I was involved with MarketHealth.com back when they were JoeBucks.com.I made a small amount of money with them. I feel alot of my tracking was also screwed up. The issues they had with “cookies” and “mis used affiliate i.d’s” were a HUGE concern of mine. I’ve heard that they made a few changes for the better. All I know is that no one ever got back to me when I had any type of questions or if they did, it took a very long time. All I can comment on is the fact they had so many problems when they were JoeBucks. I feel their web site don’t convert well at all. The affiliate sites are basic and provide little motivation for the customer to order. You really have to sell the product and recommend it a whole lot of times just to get the click from the customer. You can make money but you have to really do more to make the sale. Plus they have many complaints out there.I’m still not 100% sure of what to make with MarketHealth.com. I’d like to try them again but my gut feeling is that some things need to change. I’ve spoken directly to a few people that have made alot of money in affiliate marketing but they only have mixed reviews of that company. I have emailed Gary with my concerns about this and he never got back to me ever. Another HUGE complaint I’ve heard from so many others. My grade for them would have to be a D- . Nice site by the way HERMAN!!
andrew | Jun 24, 2008 | Reply
Hi Shannon,
Seems like the most common problem is that the company does not really reply to complaints. The common consensus is pretty balance actually. I read in some forums of people earning alot of money from markethealth and there are also equally number of people who felt cheated.
Regards,
Andrew
Herman | Aug 24, 2008 | Reply
Thanks Shannon, now I don’t want anyone here to get the wrong idea of me I’m not on the side of herbalbiz but honestly I get a paycheck about every 2 weeks sometimes its no more than 40 or 50 bucks but the way I look at it I did very little work to receive that money but to be honest yes I think herbalbiz has a few tricks up their sleeve and unless we own our own web business how can we guarantee ourselves people will be honest with us. I’m trying to focus on advertising effectively because I realize if you know how to do that then you can make money with your own website no matter what you’re selling, oh man! I’m getting way off topic so let me go. Peace!
Shannon Macri | Sep 10, 2008 | Reply
Hi everyone. I just got back in Market Health 2 weeks ago and have earned $80.00. I really didn’t do much for that amount. LOL. I also have clicked on my own link and have noticed that the reference id is different than the id on my affiliate link. Thats another complaint i keep hearing about. I cleared my cookies,entered my exact affiliate address and the same affiliate id apperared on my main page!!! I bet i’m losing a ton of money in sales. Once I get my measily 80 bucks, I’M GONE FROM MARKET HEALTH again.
Shannon Macri | Sep 10, 2008 | Reply
The id that keeps replacing mine is 680256 i believe. It’s the default Market Health code. What a surprise. I could have made $800 instead of $80!!! This is what pisses me off.This has been the biggest issue with them for over 3 years. People were complaining about that so much that market health shut down their forum back when they were still Joe Bucks. They used to be on ABEST WEB forums. I’m mad. I GIVE UP WITH THEM.
Craig Harper | Oct 20, 2008 | Reply
hey I am shocked to hear this… now I know why the bloody hell was conversions so freaking low!!!!
well apart from Genbucks, which other programs do you guys suggest, I use PPC.
Genbucks is being quite hard with my initial orders, it seems they have very strict policies in place to clear new affiliates… anyways the affiliate manger said I should be cleared for payment within a couple of days.
ANy other program you guys recommend?????
Shannon Macri | Oct 23, 2008 | Reply
MoreNiche is best in my opinion. I make more with them than any other program. I feel that MoreNiche is the best in regards to all the free training they offer affiliates. IT’S GREAT.I’ve never found a program where they offer so many free pdf reports and tutorials.